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Farm Goddess · Goddess

Total Bull

Shannon · Honored Guest

I saw this quote from the "Rules" thread and thought I'd tie it in here:

If you want to tell me how fabulous Sarah Palin is, you'd better make me laugh a h e l l of a lot.
He who shall not be named is riding a bull this week named "Lipstick on a Pig". I don't know whether I should laugh or cry.......

Farm Goddess · Goddess

oh dear heaven I think I have torn a guffaw muscle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am so glad I'd set my coffee down and swallowed before reading this!

I'm going to be bursting out in spontaneous laughter the rest of the evening!

Farm Goddess · Goddess

I tried to look up the pedigree info for Lipstick on a Pig but all I could find was a listing of Tony Sharp's other bulls. He's got quite a few that I've seen buck in the PBR as well as PRCA. He's got others with umm... interesting names too hehehehe. Can you imagine what fun someone like Donny Gay would have announcing for a ride involving a bull named Stupid?

Shannon · Honored Guest

I never had the pleasure of hearing Donny Gay announce, but I can imagine it would be quite fun.

As for Justin drawing Lipstick on a Pig, I have to wonder--is he the lipstick or the pig?

Farm Goddess · Goddess

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh let's be charitable and call him the pig. The bull might take offense the other way around. Also, if Lipstick is on the pig, perhaps the pig will miss a few events and we'll catch a break.

Farm Goddess · Goddess

Although I do have to say I kinda feel bad about referring to St. Justin as "that pig". He's not someone I'd like to have as a neighbor, but he IS a good bullrider. I just think he gets too much hype and "help" from the judges and the PBR powers that be. I'd like to see him get scored the same way they score Marchi. Then that would be a fair, fine and fun race to the finish!

Shannon · Honored Guest

I agree with everything you said, Jean.

I watched a little of Xtreme Bull Riding last night and saw My Wife again! It wasn't quite as funny, though, because those commentators had a much better time getting around the name issue. Makes me wonder if Craig, et al have dirty minds because they couldn't. Not that I'm complaining, mind you--my own mind has been in the gutter for year.

Jaye · Old Hand

The reason I watch bullriding is to see the bulls. I grew up on a farm where we had cows, steers and one mean bull named Rusty Nail. My favorite bull of all times is Little Yellow Jacket although I also favor Chicken on a Chain, Booger Butt, Mossy Oak Mudslinger, the late Bodacious, Reindeer Dippin, Scene of the Crash and the late Werewolf. Three new bulls interest me: Crosswired, Panda and Full Throttle. Last week the commentators were all hyped up on Blackjack, but he didn't do much in the BFTS debut. If it weren't for the bulls, I would not be watching the PBR. I would watch the PRCA Xtreme Bulls just to listen to Donny Gay. All I can say is thank God for DVR's.

-- Edited by Jaye at 17:27, 2008-09-28

Kapitan Mors · Supreme Being

Farm Goddess wrote:

Got a favorite bull? Have you seen a bull that would be better on a plate at Marchi's Steak House? Any thoughts on great bulls of years gone by? Post about them here.

I like Big Mike, but I don't know what happened to him. I suppose I could Google him...

I also seem to like bulls that jump and writhe. Spinners just don't excite me very much and I tend to perk up a little when bulls like Vertical Limit and Reindeer Dippin are in the pen.

I don't really want to see cowboys get hurt, but I like it when there aren't a lot of qualified rides... Does that make me the moral equivalent of someone who watches a NASCAR race just for the crashes? Probably, but I'm unmoved.

Jaye · Old Hand

Yes, it probably does mean you watch bullriding for few qualified rides like watching NASCAR for crashes, but you are not alone. The only difference is bullriding is exciting most of the time while NASCAR is exciting only when someone has a wreck, preferrably a big pile up. Big Mike was in the short-go in Oakland so you should see him tonight. I like the big eliminator-type bulls too like Bodacious was. Avalanche and Blizzard are good ones. Avalanche is a grandson of Bo, and I think Blizzard is too. When I named my favorite bulls, I meant to mention Tahonta. I saw him bucking for the PRCA a lot, and Donny Gay really liked him. Last night in the first round, Tahonta's Shadow bucked for 44.25. He has to be an offspring of Tahonta. He certainly looks and bucks like him. I don't know why judges prefer spinners over jumpers but maybe it's because they're easier to ride. Not nearly exciting to watch though.

-- Edited by Jaye at 16:18, 2008-09-28

-- Edited by Jaye at 16:20, 2008-09-28

Shannon · Honored Guest

I liked it when Mike White rode Big Mike because I had fun making up a Dr. Suess-esqe commentary in my mind

I didn't know that Blizzard and Avalanche were in the Bo bloodline. That explains a lot.

Before last night, White Magic was a favorite of mine, but after Mike Lee and Wiley's outs on him, he just seems to be losing something. Not to take anything away from the riders, but it's my opinion that neither time did he have his usual out. I think he's losing some of his magic.

There are so many good ones, though, that it's hard for me to name a favorite. I don't like seeing the riders get hurt either, but I, too, prefer the ones that drop a lot and give us the belly rolls.

Kapitan Mors · Supreme Being

Jaye wrote:

Yes, it probably does mean you watch bullriding for few qualified rides like watching NASCAR for crashes, but you are not alone. The only difference is bullriding is exciting most of the time while NASCAR is exciting only when someone has a wreck, preferrably a big pile up. Big Mike was in the short-go in Oakland so you should see him tonight. I like the big eliminator-type bulls too like Bodacious was. Avalanche and Blizzard are good ones. Avalanche is a grandson of Bo, and I think Blizzard is too. When I named my favorite bulls, I meant to mention Tahonta. I saw him bucking for the PRCA a lot, and Donny Gay really liked him. Last night in the first round, Tahonta's Shadow bucked for 44.25. He has to be an offspring of Tahonta. He certainly looks and bucks like him. I don't know why judges prefer spinners over jumpers but maybe it's because they're easier to ride. Not nearly exciting to watch though.

-- Edited by Jaye at 16:18, 2008-09-28

-- Edited by Jaye at 16:20, 2008-09-28

My brother is a large fan of NASCAR and he periodically attempts to instruct me in the craft. We sit and watch the cars go around and he says "Now we just hav eto wait for the Big One."

"The big what?"

"The big crash that decides who'll win."

It seems like a hell of a way to race, but who am I to argue with NASCAR?

But speaking of Donny Gay, he is by far my favorite announcer, even when he's just narrating a tape-delayed event in a studio somewhere.

-- Edited by Kapitan Mors at 21:34, 2008-09-29

Jaye · Old Hand

I see Blackjack is in the 1st round at Cincy. It'll be interesting to see how he does this time out since he is heralded as such a fantastic bull.

Jaye · Old Hand

I am really worried about Chicken on a Chain. Guess you saw my post on the Zonk Board for "Turn it Out." If you read Cody Lambert's interview on the PBR web site, he is to be examined (probably has already been examined now) by his vet. He's not bucking in Cincinnati this weekend either. I read somewhere that the fact Chicken bucked in Tulsa as well as he did was a testament to his ability because he must've been in extreme pain. Right after, one of his owners, Jeff Robinson, noticed he had a high fever and he was sent immediately to the vet here in NC where he was diagnosed w/urinary tract stones. Obviously he's not 100% well since he's not in Cincy. Here's one of my favorite pictures of Chicken with his best buddy, Booger Butt. Booger is in the Short Go tomorrow. Just shows you how big Chicken is. I think he's around 1,900 lbs. while Booger is about 1,500.

-- Edited by Jaye at 18:42, 2008-10-04

Farm Goddess · Goddess

Good heavens, Booger Butt looks like a calf next to Chicken! I'm concerned about him too. I hope we don't loose another great bull this year. I have such trouble finding information on the PBR website that I know I'll miss any updates on his condition. If you hear anything, let us know please.

Do you know what they feed these bucking bulls Jaye? I was just wondering with the problems with melamine in food stuffs in China causing kidney issues in pets last year and babies this year. I have to wonder about cattle feed. I know there was a problem with horse feed last year too.

(May I digress for a moment and just say that we REALLY need to stop doing business with China! I mean lead in kid toys, poison in food. What's it going to take for safety to over rule profit?! Okay. I'm done.)

Jaye · Old Hand

BBOY

Jaye · Old Hand

Cow Joke

Shannon · Honored Guest

RE: Total Bull

Farm Goddess · Goddess

William and I especially loved the charge for the "manure attachment" LOL!!

After all the used car shopping I've done this year, I now have a plan just in case any of those sales people show up wanting a miniature horse. Thank you!

Jaye · Old Hand

Red Rock & Lane Frost

Jaye · Old Hand

Bucking Bull of the Year Finalists

Farm Goddess · Goddess

RE: Total Bull

Jaye · Old Hand

Oh, yeah, Troubadour came back strong. Remember that Mike White score in Tulsa of 95.75? I'm sure that was after his injury had healed. He has only been ridden twice this year. The other being Kody Lostroh at 93.50. His average bull score in the PBR is 45.50, but if you include the PRCA it's over 47. He was out a total of 13 times this year.

I like Copperhead Slinger too especially since Guilherme has had so much success on him, and you know I love Bones who has probably been the strongest near the end of the season. My least favorite would be All In.

It's all going to come down to their performance at the finals though, so we'll see.

Shannon · Honored Guest

That's a really good list. Copperhead Slinger is great, but I have to wonder if the number of times he's been rode this year may make him less likely to win. Bones is one that I'll be watching next year, but I think he was late in coming on strong.

I'd bet on Troubadour, too.

Jaye · Old Hand

I hate Chicken is not in there too, but I really didn't expect it after hearing comments made by Cody Lambert. Read something recently that said Cody was going to have either J.B. Mauney or Brian Canter, who both live nearby, go get on him and have it videotaped. That way they can determine if he's fit enough (good enough?) to buck in the finals. Poor Chicken. I think he would've captured the title again had he not gotten sick, but then I'm partial. I think his buddy, Booger Butt, is great too. If he were a little bigger and thus scored a little higher, I think he would've been a contender too.

blackboots · Pooper Scooper

Yeah, I'm sad not to see Chicken, and I remember hearing the same thing, Jaye, about having JB or Brian get on him to determine if he's fit enough for Finals. A part of me would love to see him there, but at the same time, I'd rather see him healthy and rarin' to go in Madison Square Garden.

I think Troubador might be one of my new favorite bulls--he shares his name with a George Strait song, which gives him high marks IMHO--and I love Slinger because Guilherme had such a good ride on him, and man I'd love to see another ride like that. In fact, I'd like to see 7 or 8 of them.

I checked the first round draw for Mohegan Sun and JB has a bull named Repeat. Anyone know if this is part of the brother (or cousin?) trio of Pete, Repeat and Ditto? I love those bulls.

Shannon · Honored Guest

There were so many good ones this year, it was bound to be tough to see some left off. Who was it that won last year? CoaC or Copperhead Slinger?

Jaye · Old Hand

Chicken won last year. Now that Copperhead has gotten into the final 5, it won't matter how many times he was ridden this year. It'll all come down to the performance meaning the ratings they're given. Sure a judge could mark the bull lower for being ridden in the finals, but usually they don't do that. Copperhead bucked off two-thirds of the riders that got on his back this year (4 out of 12 rode for 8 seconds) and every score was 91 or higher. If he does well, he could win the title, no doubt about it. I wouldn't mind seeing that at all. I love his daddy.

Don't know if Repeat is kin to the other Repeat or not. He's only been out once in the BFTS.

Shannon · Honored Guest

Oh for goodness sake! First we have a bull named "Lipstick on a Pig" and now we have "Joe the Plumber". How's that for making a statement?

"Chicken won last year."

Thanks, Jaye! After reading your explanation, I'm back to thinking that it could be a tight race between Troubadour and Copperhead Slinger.

BTW: Results are up. Doesn't look like there were too many tough bulls this time around judging on the number of rides and the scores.

-- Edited by Shannon at 22:01, 2008-10-17

Farm Goddess · Goddess

Shannon wrote:

Oh for goodness sake! First we have a bull named "Lipstick on a Pig" and now we have "Joe the Plumber". How's that for making a statement?

BTW: Results are up. Doesn't look like there were too many tough bulls this time around judging on the number of rides and the scores.

-- Edited by Shannon at 22:01, 2008-10-17

Welp, the bull isn't a real plumber either biggrin

Too bad the rocket scientist owners ("nukular" rocket scientists I'm sure) don't know how to spell plumber.

GASP. Shannon! You actually PEEKED!! I'm so proud of you LOL.

-- Edited by Farm Goddess at 23:30, 2008-10-17

Shannon · Honored Guest

Farm Goddess wrote:

Welp, the bull isn't a real plumber either biggrin

Too bad the rocket scientist owners ("nukular" rocket scientists I'm sure) don't know how to spell plumber.

-- Edited by Farm Goddess at 23:30, 2008-10-17

I didn't notice that.

And I have to be honest: The only reason I peeked is because it's a three day event.

-- Edited by Shannon at 23:36, 2008-10-17

Jaye · Old Hand

Let's Say...

Kapitan Mors · Supreme Being

RE: Total Bull

Farm Goddess · Goddess

Kapitan Mors wrote:

I did see a bull do something once that I'd try to duplicate if I was a bull. It was totally random and unplanned, but the bull lashed the manure-soaked end of his tail across the cowboy's eyes, effectively blinding him and giving him an awful taste in his mouth at the same time. Dirty, dirty pool indeed, but it produced one of those all-of-a-sudden buckoffs that nobody really saw coming.

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!snortLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go BULL!

Shannon · Honored Guest

hee! And ewwwww!!!

Shannon · Honored Guest

I've read on two different websites, from two different posters that Versus Blackout is listed as deceased. One poster said that he died in May. That's too bad.

Jaye · Old Hand

I saw where he hasn't been out in 2008. I emailed DH Page to see if they would confirm if Versus Blackout is deceased. They've responded to emails in the past, so I may hear from them. I'd like to know why he died if he did. I'm assuming he wasn't that old since he came on tour in 2005.

Heard from what is probably a reliable source that Chicken on a Chain will be in Vegas along with his sidekick, Booger Butt, and that he has gotten back some of his "Chicken attitude."

-- Edited by Jaye at 08:48, 2008-10-19

Farm Goddess · Goddess

Jaye wrote:

I saw where he hasn't been out in 2008. I emailed DH Page to see if they would confirm if Versus Blackout is deceased. They've responded to emails in the past, so I may hear from them. I'd like to know why he died if he did. I'm assuming he wasn't that old since he came on tour in 2005.

Heard from what is probably a reliable source that Chicken on a Chain will be in Vegas along with his sidekick, Booger Butt, and that he has gotten back some of his "Chicken attitude."

-- Edited by Jaye at 08:48, 2008-10-19

I hope you hear back from them. I'd like to know his status. I remember everyone trying to find out about him earlier in the year and DH Page gave his status at that time, I just don't recall what it was. He wasn't dead, that I would have remembered.

There are a couple of bulls that, if I had disposable income, I'd invest in. One of them is Lil Feller. He's a good bucker, but mainly because I love the name. It makes me go "awwwwwwwwwwwwww how cuuuute!" There's a lady on a miniature horse message board I read that had a tiny tiny little colt she named "Stewie" talk about your warm fuzzies! We need a bull named "Stewie".

I like reading the bull names and imagining how they got them. "Wow, he's a lil feller ain't he?" "Well, shoot, run that lil feller in here and let's see what he can do."

Toro Cinco? The owner got tired of being b i t c h e d at because he hadn't named bull #5.

Shannon · Honored Guest

Bull list for Vegas. It's still subject to change a little:

Pro Bull Stats

Jaye · Old Hand

Great! I've been waiting for this. Here's the ones I'm glad to see made it besides Chicken on a Chain & Booger Butt of course:

Apache Leap, Major Pain, Crosswired, Full Throttle (all of these are young bulls). Also some favorites that are a little long in the tooth: Crossfire Hurricane and Pandora's Box.

Delighted but a little surprised to see Sir Patrick in there since he was in Connecticut last weekend. Guess he sealed the deal by his performance there.

One I wish made it but didn't: Kung Fu Panda. He's young though so maybe next year.

I'm surprised Cochise is not on the list. He didn't buck for the PBR this year, but he is one of the best bulls in the country. Maybe it has to do with the Klein Brothers' contract with the PBR, or lack thereof, as they have no bulls in the finals this year. I would've also liked to have seen Smokeless Wardance make it.

As a sentimental favorite, I wouldn't have minded seeing Reindeer Dippin on the list although I know he tends to run down the fence instead of buck and spin nowadays.

-- Edited by Jaye at 08:26, 2008-10-23

-- Edited by Jaye at 08:49, 2008-10-23

Kapitan Mors · Supreme Being

Jaye wrote:

Great! I've been waiting for this. Here's the ones I'm glad to see made it besides Chicken on a Chain & Booger Butt of course:

Apache Leap, Major Pain, Crosswired, Full Throttle (all of these are young bulls). Also some favorites that are a little long in the tooth: Crossfire Hurricane and Pandora's Box.

Delighted but a little surprised to see Sir Patrick in there since he was in Connecticut last weekend. Guess he sealed the deal by his performance there.

One I wish made it but didn't: Kung Fu Panda. He's young though so maybe next year.

I'm surprised Cochise is not on the list. He didn't buck for the PBR this year, but he is one of the best bulls in the country. Maybe it has to do with the Klein Brothers' contract with the PBR, or lack thereof, as they have no bulls in the finals this year. I would've also liked to have seen Smokeless Wardance make it.

As a sentimental favorite, I wouldn't have minded seeing Reindeer Dippin on the list although I know he tends to run down the fence instead of buck and spin nowadays.

-- Edited by Jaye at 08:26, 2008-10-23

-- Edited by Jaye at 08:49, 2008-10-23

I agree about Reindeer Dippin. He may be developing bad habits as a bull, but when he's of a mind to buck a cowboy off, he's devastating. I just wish he didn't have those days where he seems to get so freaked out that all he does is run around like my dog trying to catch a piece of high-speed bacon.

Smokeless Wardance is good, and another one I like is Big Mike. I'm not suggesting he should be on the list, I just like him. It's hard not to like a bull who is so immense he couldn't be carried in the back of a pickup truck without breaking the suspension.

Farm Goddess · Goddess

Jaye wrote:

Great! I've been waiting for this. Here's the ones I'm glad to see made it besides Chicken on a Chain & Booger Butt of course:

Apache Leap, Major Pain, Crosswired, Full Throttle (all of these are young bulls). Also some favorites that are a little long in the tooth: Crossfire Hurricane and Pandora's Box.

Delighted but a little surprised to see Sir Patrick in there since he was in Connecticut last weekend. Guess he sealed the deal by his performance there.

One I wish made it but didn't: Kung Fu Panda. He's young though so maybe next year.

I'm surprised Cochise is not on the list. He didn't buck for the PBR this year, but he is one of the best bulls in the country. Maybe it has to do with the Klein Brothers' contract with the PBR, or lack thereof, as they have no bulls in the finals this year. I would've also liked to have seen Smokeless Wardance make it.

As a sentimental favorite, I wouldn't have minded seeing Reindeer Dippin on the list although I know he tends to run down the fence instead of buck and spin nowadays.

-- Edited by Jaye at 08:26, 2008-10-23

-- Edited by Jaye at 08:49, 2008-10-23

Good heavens I thought Smokeless Wardance and Pandora's Box had long since retired! I'd swear I was watching ancient PRCA events with Pandora's Box. How long has that bull been bucking?

I still like Reindeer. It doesn't matter to me one whit that he doesn't stop and spin like a mechanical bull in a cowboy bar. That sucker is a madman. They keep saying "you just never know what he's going to do" well, are cowboys supposed to know what a bull is going to do? Ty Murray keeps saying, "When you get to this level you're s'pose to be able to ride all kinds of bulls" well, then none of the cowboys I've seen climb on Reindeer should be riding at this level because I don't think I've ever witnessed first hand anyone stick on that bull. I'm thinking that at this level, they should be riding the hardest to ride bulls, not the ones you can pay money to climb on and ride in a bar room.

But that's just me

Jaye · Old Hand

Hey, y'all. Hope Blondie will be coming home tomorrow.

Okay. Smokeless Wardance has been out a total of 142 times. He began his tour with the pro bull riding circuit in 2003, but in 2008 he bucked 20 times with an average score of over 45.5 and a buck-off rate of 80%. He caught an incredible 48 points in June this year, probably one of the highest marks given to any bull at least in recent history.

Pandora's Box has been out a whopping 146 times since 2003! This year he bucked at 18 events with an average score of 44.68. Buck-off average is just under 89%.

Both of these bulls belong to Tom Taylor and usually travel together. That has me concerned about Wardance. Since Pandora's Box will be in Vegas, there must be something up with Wardance or he'd be there too.

Both these bulls have had unusually long careers, but neither shows signs of slowing down. Rare indeed. Guess it just proves how much care is given to these bulls.

One thing about Reindeer that has given him a bad rep in the past two years is his inconsistency. And if a rider does make the whistle on him, the score is low. Barbosa road him during the Shoot Out for 83 points (his last out), but Reindeer's score was a dismal 39. His other recent out, also at one of the Shoot Outs, was 38. He is exciting to watch from a fan's perspective though. Prior to 2006, he was a great bull. Always a nervous fellow, it has been said that nowadays it appears he really hates bucking.

And Big Mike will be in Vegas.

Kapitan Mors · Supreme Being

I have to make an ugly confession vis-a-vis the bulls, this is this: I often can't tell one bull from another. There are a few I can tell by sight, and as often as not, they have to have some peculiar distinguishing feature. Like Big Mike, whose immense size and creamy color give him away, or Reindeer Dippin who white face against a black background makes him the envy of Norwegian black metal guitarists everywhere.

But honestly, most of the time I can't tell one bull from another. I'm not happy about it either, because I'm usually pretty good at identifying certain things by sight. I also have trouble remembering people's names at parties - after a few minutes I'm reduced to saying things like "Excuse me, Man in Tweed Coat, but you seem to be standing on my foot." I wonder if these deficiencies are related?

I do wish I was better at identifying the bulls. It's kind of embarrassing to be a fan of a sport and not be able to recognize its major competitors, but with advancing years has come, if not wisdom, then at least the ability to laugh at myself. But in my own defense, I'll point out that when we first started watching bull riding, I couldn't identify anything, from the cowboys on down. They would ride, and I would think "Oh yes, here's what's-his-name, another cowboy that could fit comfortably in my armpit." (Being six-foot-four, the cowboys always seem small to me.) But now I do pretty well with the cowboys; the only ones that sometimes throw me are the guys fresh up from the Challenger tour, and I swear the Rookie of the Year contenders this year have the eerie habit of all looking more or less the same.

"Who is that?"

"That's Kolt! I mean, Pistol. I mean, oh hell, I'm going to go get coffee."

Jaye · Old Hand

I am exactly the same way! Well, let's face it. Unless a bull has something unusual about him, he looks like a bull. Sometimes when they're famous bulls, the image will be burned into my mind. Bulls like Reindeer, Chicken on a Chain, Troubadour, these are a few bulls I can recognize on sight. Other bulls with distinctive horn shapes, or lack thereof, are easier. Spotted bulls like Cochise and Texas aren't hard to remember. But when you get a bull, like say a red one with average horns, and average build, well that one looks like most all the other ones. You can't say that one has beautiful blue eyes or that one sure has a big nose or Angelina Jolie lips. I started downloading pictures of some of the better known bulls into my screensaver, and it has helped me a little. Kind of like a bull pop quiz.

And I can pretty much call out the riders' names now by sight, but I am also bad with faces and names of people. I guess I just don't pay enough attention. Often I have to ask people I don't know well what their names are several times before it sinks in, but that doesn't mean I'd recognize them walking down the street. There's a medical condition called Prosopagnosia, face blindness, where people can't even recognize their own faces! They cannot recognize anyone, even their spouses and children. I'm certainly not that bad, but I think I've got a trace of it in me.

Shannon · Honored Guest

"When you get to this level you're s'pose to be able to ride all kinds of bulls"

Maybe someone should explain to Ty that at this level a bull shouldn't allow a rider to get to 8 seconds.

There are very few bulls that I recognize by sight, too. As for riders, I swear there are many more riders in and out of the top 45 this year due to injuries or being cut because last year, I was able to identify almost all of them the minute I saw them in the chutes. I was also able to list about 40 of them without looking. Now, I hardly recognize most of them and would be lucky if I could list 20 off the top of my head.

Farm Goddess · Goddess

I'm quite embarassed to say that I only recognize a few of the bulls by sight too. I wonder if it's because we don't see them all regularly and when we see them, it's only for 8 seconds.

I say this because I'm the one that can tell the difference between "Lassies" used in the old tv show. I knew instantly that they used two different wolves in Dances With Wolves. I know when a movie cowboy is put on a different horse for a different scene. I'm the one that notices when the white star on a movie horse turns into a blaze and his one white back sock turns into two white stockings, etc. Even if there are no distinguishing marks to show they're using different horses that are supposed to be the same, I know when they change up by the size, conformation or gait.

I'm really bad about not recognizing even my neighbors when I see them away from the neighborhood. Around here, I generally see them in relaxed ranch "drag". In town, cleaned up, I could walk (or roll) right past them.

Jaye · Old Hand

I think you're on to something there, Jean. Seeing a bull for only 8 seconds doesn't give one much opportunity to see all the bull's distinguishing marks. Usually all we see are the wild eyes in the chute and the bull's big balls when he's bucking.

Kapitan Mors · Supreme Being

Jaye wrote:

I think you're on to something there, Jean. Seeing a bull for only 8 seconds doesn't give one much opportunity to see all the bull's distinguishing marks. Usually all we see are the wild eyes in the chute and the bull's big balls when he's bucking.

As often as not, my eye seems inexorably attracted to the great flying arcs of snot. If snot had more distinguishing features, I'd probably be better at telling the bulls apart...

As an aside, I watch bulls buck in slow motion and often wince for them. Either they have different patterns of sensory nerves or they're a lot tougher than I am, but if MY balls were slung around like that, I'd need months of extensive therapy just to be able to walk again, not to mention something to cover up the fact that my voice had gone up about two octaves and I suddenly sounded like Mickey Mouse on crack.